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this are nice
这是很好的
mushrooms
蘑菇
foreign
外国
so we have also our mushrooms in Uganda
所以我们在乌干达也有蘑菇，
we have very big white ones like a cup
我们有很大的白色蘑菇，就像杯子一样，
yeah but what about your grasshoppers
是的，但是你的蚱蜢怎么样，
they are very nice that's very delicious
它们非常好，非常美味，
if you are talking about raw fish here
如果你是的话 这里谈论生鱼
raw fish like like Loi Loy uhhuh which
生鱼就像 Loi Loy 呃，从
psychologically I would I would not if I
心理上来说，我不会，如果我
was not t had not tasted then you talk
没有尝过的话，那么你
about our grasshopper yes very nice but
谈论我们的蚱蜢 是的，非常好，但
you can't talk about Loy and
你不能同时谈论 Loy 和
grasshoppers at the same time did I know
蚱蜢 我知道
that I was going to go to Africa for 25
我要去非洲25
years tell me why why why is Uganda good
年吗告诉我为什么为什么乌干达
for
对
you I've seed your question
你有好处我已经播下了你的问题
no okay Uganda
不好吧乌干达
is full of
充满了
challenges
挑战
sometimes I feel that too
有时我觉得太
full too what too
满了什么太
full
when I had been in Uganda for some years
当我在乌干达呆了几年时，
I started wondering why is this
我开始想知道为什么这个
beautiful fertile country why is there
美丽富饶的国家为什么会有
poverty and uh then I made my diagnosis
贫困，然后我作为一名医生做出了诊断，
as a medical doctor that there is not
gender
性别
equality it is the
平等不存在，事实
opposite and you know for all
恰恰相反，你知道的
development we need uh equality this is
我们需要的所有发展呃平等这是
my diagnosis gender based
我的诊断基于性别的
poverty like now even today in this
贫困就像现在即使在今天在这个
Workshop I can
研讨会上我可以
see um
optimistically possibilities for a good
乐观地看到一个好的
chains
链
fore
在
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uh they they don't understand they don't
呃他们不 理解他们不
understand what they teach so you you
明白他们所教的内容，所以你不知
somehow went through this yes already
何故经历过这个，是的，
yeah so you know if you put that one if
是的，所以你知道，如果你把那个放在
I had to come and talk about empowerment
我必须来谈论赋权的地方，
as like just without that picture it
就像没有那张照片一样，
usually doesn't make people
通常不会让人们
understand
理解
are they quite hard so that they are
他们很努力吗，所以他们是
good K what
好K呢，
abouta Oma for who M no isn't ITA same
Oma对谁来说M不，ITA与M不一样吗，
as M
yes
是的
the
my father was a teacher and he was a
我的父亲是一名老师，他是
head teacher my grandfather had more
我的班主任 祖父有
than 20 wives and my father was the
20 多个妻子，我的父亲是
first person to get education and he was
第一个接受教育的人，也是他
the one who educated the rest and I
教育其他人的人，我
became a
成为一名
nurse and I stay with Rita since 199
护士，自 199 年以来我和丽塔住在一起，
three in the same
三个人住在同一所
house and we have been sharing resources
房子里，我们一直在分享 资源
together so it's it's just like it's
在一起，所以这
normal we quarrel also argue a lot which
很正常，我们吵架也经常争论，这
is good that's that's how I've been
很好，这就是我一直和她一起
living with like that she's a friend and
生活的方式，她是朋友，
I think it is very rare even Finland a
我认为即使是芬兰，一个
black woman and a white person to stay
黑人女性和一个白人留下来也是非常罕见的
together she's really dear friend
在一起，她真的是亲爱的朋友，
there yeah maybe I you know
是的，也许我你知道，
sometimes uh those women or those people
有时呃，那些女人或那些人，
they get inspired because of me you look
他们因为我而受到启发，你看看
at my hair I'm old and I'm still working
我的头发，我老了，我还在工作，
they expect me to be at home and City to
他们希望我在家，而城市
be served to be served or be like the
是 被服务或像
some of them say you should get a man to
他们中的一些人说你应该找一个男人来
take care of you hell with them the man
照顾你让他们见鬼去吧，
who will get me will suffer you know why
谁会得到我会受苦你知道
I'm saying so I don't think I'm too EMP
我为什么这么说，所以我不认为我太 EMP，
unless the man is the type of me but I
除非那个男人是我的类型，但我
don't think I don't need
不认为我不需要
one I'm not a young anymore to to do the
一个，我不再年轻了，
can you give me water to Bath can you
你可以给我水去巴斯，你可以给
take for me food can you don't go here
我食物吗，你可以不吗？ 走这里，
don't go I don't think can you serve me
别走，我想你不能为我服务，如果
I if if if you know love is very stupid
你知道爱是非常愚蠢的，
it can make me do it but I don't
它可以让我这么做，但我不知道
know
知道
you know you had this training of
你知道你接受过这样的训练
religious leaders in in bukum yeah and
bukum 的宗教领袖 是的，
now you are going to have two trainings
现在你们将在 G 接受两次培训，
in
G yeah isn't it so yes madame there's no
不是吗，是的，女士，
madame here so and it starts tomorrow
这里没有女士，所以明天开始，
yes but we are going to have Anglican
是的，但我们将有圣公会是的，
yeah Protestant and then we are going to
新教，然后我们将
have Catholics then we shall have
有天主教徒，那么我们将有
seventh day
第七天
Orthodox okay and then all the saved
东正教，好吧，然后所有得救的
ones are with under Pentacost saved ones
人都在五旬节下得救的人
means like Born Again born again they
意味着重生，他们
can be born again from Catholic Born
可以从天主教的重生中重生，
Again from and then the Muslims nervous
然后穆斯林紧张
is a bit wrong word I was a bit excited
是有点错误的词我是 有点兴奋
okay actually
好吧实际上
um I can't say that because we had the
嗯我不能这么说，因为我们有
other one I I may be saying that I know
另一个我我可能会说我知道
you know groups remember that that side
你知道团体记得那一边
is where one religious leader wrote to
是一位宗教领袖给我写了
me a four Page Letter yes claiming that
一封四页信是的声称
we are spoiling the children according
我们正在破坏 根据地区的不同，孩子们也
to the region and what not and we are
不同，我们
going still to have that kind of people
仍然会有这样的人，
there so I'm very
所以我已经做好了
ready
准备
today we have learned that most
今天我们了解到，
sensitive part of the woman is
女人最敏感的部分是
glitterish you
闪闪发光的，
you can
你可以
somebody
有人
and I can tell you actually that that
我实际上可以告诉你，
clitoris is even more sensitive than
阴蒂甚至比
pennies we call this the labia
便士还要敏感，我们称之为
minora this areia minora this are
小阴唇，小圆环，这是
major so clitoris
主要的，所以阴蒂
this
这
many people think that
很多人来说都认为
when hormones will make her behave
当荷尔蒙会让她表现得更好时
differently
不同的是，
you have to understand women that's why
你必须了解女性，这就是
we are
我们在
here I think that's an interesting thing
这里的原因我认为这是一件有趣的事情，
this one piece will make 52 layers watch
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uhuh Bo
呃博
round get
轮获得
为
so most of the engineers think because
所以大多数工程师认为因为
they have G to the engineering school
他们有G到工程学校
they build houses minus Consulting the
他们建造房子减去咨询
women somebody goes to make a toilet pit
妇女有人去制作厕所 坑
Ling then he puts a small hole where
凌然后他放了一个小洞，
because he knows he's the one going to
因为他知道他是那个像
urinate while standing like this they
这样站着的人要小便的人，他们从来
have never asked the women where does
没有问过女人们
the urine go you go there then you have
尿液去哪里，你去那里然后你
to do this where will my urine go here
必须这样做我的尿液会去哪里
or will it go that way you have to
还是会 事情是这样的，你必须
calculate even in those ones that's a
计算，即使在那些
gender issue that's where they have to
性别问题上，他们也必须
participate it may look minor but a very
参与其中，这可能看起来很小，但却是一件非常
serious
严重的
thing my childhood was good
事情，我的童年是美好的，
I remember we had very good food a lot
我记得我们有很好的食物，很多
of fish a lot of meat a lot of
鱼，很多肉 很多
milk it was quite good until I became
牛奶，一直很好，直到我
nine my uncle rapped
九岁为止，我的叔叔敲打了
me I tried to tell my grandmother and my
我，我试图告诉我的祖母和我的
aunt and they said I should not tell
阿姨，他们说我不应该告诉
anybody so I grew up with that pain that
任何人，所以我在中学时
that man sexually abused
那个男人对我进行性虐待的痛苦中长大。
me
during my secondary school in Uganda
在乌干达，
here girls slept in their own Cottage
女孩睡在自己的小屋里
and boys alone so at night these girls
，男孩独自睡，所以晚上这些女孩
disappeared and I only found a Boy near
消失了，我只发现我附近有一个男孩，
me and uh he raped
呃，他强奸了
me and I cried but I kept quiet only it
我，我哭了，但我保持沉默，直到
realized I was
意识到我
pregnant my father started crying and he
怀孕了，我父亲开始哭，他
told me you be home
告诉我你回家了，
and and you you you stay with us and
你你你和我们在一起，
this was another opportunity that my
这是我
father gave me a second chance to go
父亲给我第二次机会回到
back to
school then you have to make people
学校的另一个机会，然后你必须让人们
participate participation like you said
参与，就像你
yesterday maximum participation
昨天说的那样，最大限度地参与
everybody's involvement in something
每个人对某事的参与
will make even empowerment greater
将
yeah
是的，
the Turning Point came when I went to
当我去训练时，转折点到来了，
training then there comes a man and I
然后出现了一个男人，我
fell in love with him and I thought that
爱上了他，我认为
now this one is
现在这个人很
kind so we started saying together but
友善，所以我们开始一起说，但
then I get another child I think he was
后来我有了另一个孩子，我认为他是
brought up to think that a woman is just
从小就认为女人只是
a
个
c although he had some good things most
c，虽然他有一些好
of the things but my husband was
东西，但我丈夫在
sleeping out and that's the time we had
外面睡觉，那是我们
just started understanding about HIV I
刚刚开始了解艾滋病毒的时候，我
told him to use the condom he was
告诉他使用他
refusing and he was saying AIDS is for
拒绝使用的安全套，他是 说艾滋病是
MOS I said what don't you see people
MOS 的 我说你看不到人们
dying and he
死去，他
refused actually it was the iceberg of
拒绝了 实际上这是
my decision making I remember I think I
我决策的冰山 我记得我想我
was 42 or something like that I said I
已经 42 岁了或者类似的东西 我说我
don't need anymore I want be alone and I
不再需要了 我想一个人呆着 我
have maintained I don't have a boyfriend
一直坚称我没有男朋友，
I think now 20 years I have not
我想现在已经20年了，我
had the time of misinterpreting the
没有时间
scriptures like the ho the Bible it has
像《圣经》那样曲解经文，它给
it has led to many and many problems to
our society because people are address
我们的社会带来了很多很多问题，因为人们正在解决
the issues according to the way they
这些问题 根据他们
like one this is 0 to five 0 to 5
喜欢的方式，这是 0 到 5 0 到 5
years
年
UGA from here the statistics say these
UGA 从这里统计数据显示，
people here are more than 33% of the
这里的人占人口的 33% 以上，
population they were actually
他们实际上
67
67 岁，
why is it like
为什么
that the youth take a big number as we
年轻人占了很大的数字，就像我们一样
go ahead as people proceed age
继续前进，因为人们存在年龄
differences they old very few the
差异，他们的老年人很少，
children and the youth take the biggest
儿童和青年占最大
number of think again about Family
数量，重新考虑
Planning men help women to use Family
计划生育，男性帮助妇女正确使用计划生育，
Planning
properly do not hide behind
不要躲在后面，
that
help women to come out of
帮助妇女摆脱
poverty help women to come
贫困，帮助妇女摆脱贫困
out
快点
spee
快点，
so that's a belief without scientific
所以这是一个没有科学
fact you are not killing anybody with
事实的信念，你不会杀死任何人，
because how many times can you have sex
因为
you can have even you not killing
即使你不杀死数以
millions of those children which means
百万计的孩子，你也可以发生多少次性行为，这意味着
you killing them they have to die
你杀了他们，
anyway they have to die through science
无论如何他们都必须死 科学
they have to
他们必须
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die
死
so Daisy was this uh nice Catholic yeah
所以黛西是这个呃很好的天主教徒是的
act very active woman the 34 year old
行为非常活跃的女人这个34岁的
woman with eight children look much
女人有八个孩子看起来
younger than 34 yes she's 3 34 she's the
比34岁年轻得多是的她3 34岁她
same age with my son
和我儿子同龄
Anthony she has eight children thank you
安东尼，她有八个孩子，非常感谢你，
very much and the first one is 16 years
第一个孩子已经 16 岁了，
thank you she told me that the man has
谢谢你，她告诉我那个男人有
another
另一个
woman so it more emotionally made me
女人，所以这更让我在情感上
reflect myself so noway he comes back at
反思自己，所以现在他回来了，
home and actually it is she she
实际上是她她她
she she confirmed that this man was in
她 证实这个男人
love with that
爱上了那个
woman so after some time she realized
女人，所以过了一段时间，她意识到
the man had one child another time the
这个男人生了一个孩子，另一个时候，这个
man produce another second child another
男人又生了第二个孩子，另一个
time the man so there are three children
时候，那个男人，
from that woman two days his
那个女人两天生了三个孩子，他的
husband can you imagine what is this
丈夫你能想象什么吗？ 这个
Catholic they say the Catholics are very
天主教徒，他们说天主教徒非常，
and you don't use Family Planning and
你不使用计划生育和
condoms what the
避孕套，
hypocrisy I asked myself is why do we
我问自己的虚伪是什么，
marry if we have to marry for the public
如果我们必须为公众结婚，我们为什么要结婚，
this gives her can IM but it is also
这给了她可以即时消息，但这也是它的
that it is part of her
一部分 她的
survival you know she has too many
生存，你知道她有太多的
children to take care of by her that's
孩子需要她照顾，这就是
the prisonment what I'm saying and you
我所说的监狱，你
you claim you
声称你是
Catholic it religion is not
天主教徒，宗教不是
hypocrisy
虚伪的，
am
是
Family Planning family
计划生育家庭
plan
计划
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foree
前辈
found me when we were working in the QA
找到了我，当我们在 QA 工作时，
we used to have shifts like you working
我们曾经像你一样
during the day and then you're also
白天工作，然后你也在
working at
night because she used to see how my
晚上工作，因为她过去常常了解我的
life was but when I said that later I'm
生活，但是当我 说后来我要
divorcing she said is it so I said
离婚她说是吗所以我说
yes are you sure I said
是的你确定我说
yes and I managed to leave so then
是并且我设法离开了所以
that's when we started being friends and
那时我们开始成为朋友
uh you know when they talk about
你知道当他们谈论
empowerment you may people think of
赋权时你可能会想到
money but empowerment is a self
金钱但是 赋权是一种
initiated coming from in
来自
you R has been a facilitator to
你内心的自我发起，R一直是我的促进者，
me she's good
她很好
and I think I I just wish that Finland
，我想我只是希望芬兰
could also use her somewh but know when
也能以某种方式使用她，但要知道，当
they say you retire then you are SE at
他们说你退休时，你首先会在
home
家中担任SE
per
first
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for 3 years
3岁的
old
youus she goes to the
你她去
grandmother how how are
奶奶那里怎么样怎么样
you
你在吗
down how old are you now how old are you
你现在多大了你多大了你
are you failing to talk
today
今天没能
louder what are these adults doing they
大声说话这些成年人在做什么他们
know very well
很清楚
how where is the cucko where is the
布谷鸟在哪里杰在哪里
ja very stupid questions aren't they
非常愚蠢的问题 这
that's why it is better to be
就是为什么最好保持
quiet adults everywhere are the
安静 成年人在任何地方都是
same but soon they will start no it has
一样的，但很快他们就会开始 不，它必须
to be in your memory such that you keep
在你的记忆中，这样你就不断地
telling us how old are you I am 66 oh
告诉我们你多大了，我 66 哦，是
yes that's
的，这
nice any other
很好，任何其他
questions you do it you
问题你 你做吧
try I don't
试试我不
b
b
who
谁
b b
bb
the CFE is getting
CFE正在变得
greater
更大
we the concerned parents of gome sub
我们是
count in wakiso District we are gravely
胁迫区国美子计数的有关家长 我们对
concerned about activities of an NGO
一个名为Kofa的非政府组织的活动表示严重关切，
called
Kofa
although the project looks good as a
尽管该项目作为一个社区看起来不错，但
community we have since observed that
我们后来观察到
the project is promoting pervasive
该项目正在促进普遍的
sexual behavior especially among
性行为，特别是在
children our feeling is that the
儿童中，我们的感觉是该
organization is in a tactial and
组织以一种策略和
disguising manner mobilizing promoting
伪装的方式动员促进
and recruiting children into lesbianism
和 招募儿童加入女同性恋
and
和
homosexuality it is important to not
同性恋 重要的是，不要
that the kofka donor ISF representative
说 kofka 捐助者 ISF 代表
missa and kofka executive director miss
missa 和 kofka 执行董事 cineo 小姐，
cineo both females have been allegedly
据称这两位女性已经
married to each other for a very long
结婚很
time and Sh a home in naguru the
长时间了，并且在纳古鲁有一个家，
committee strongly feels it is improper
委员会强烈认为这是
unacceptable whatsoever for open
公开的
lesbianism and homosexual activities to
女同性恋和同性恋活动
promote good sexuality values in the
children somehow this person is trying
儿童中促进良好的性价值观是不正确和不可接受的，不知何故，这个人
to to paint me with you with
试图用红色来画我和你，
red getting red and painting on you and
变红，在你身上画画，在
painting on me and painting so that kof
我身上画画，这样 kof 就
does not have any credit in place where
可以了。 在我们工作的地方没有任何信用，
working
and one
一
thing not being honest people in Uganda
件事是不诚实，乌干达人
don't want to see single
不想看到单身
women I am a threat because I'm
女性，我是一个威胁，因为我
see don't be with a
发现
man you know when I left they said I'm
我离开时没有和一个你认识的男人在一起，他们说 我
going to use a
要用一根
banana I said a banana for what people
香蕉 我说香蕉是因为人们
think told that sex is the only thing
认为性是你唯一
you can live you if you don't have sex
可以活下去的东西如果你不和男人发生性关系
with a man you can't
你就不能
I'm already old woman and even some
我已经是老太婆了甚至有些
people ask why don't you get
人们问你为什么不
married but Justice will
结婚，但正义会赢，
win
not just like that now you tell
不仅仅是这样现在你告诉
me please but you refused you walked
我，但你拒绝了，
away from
me when you walked away from me there
当你离开我时，你离开了我，我
when you were I don't let me be what I
不让我成为我现在的样子
also we shall manage we shall we have
我们也应该设法 我们应该
managed remember that politician in the
设法记住东方的那个政客 是的，
East yeah who tried to chase me away
他试图将我赶出
from the
这个
country and I'm still here but he's in
国家，我仍然在这里，但他
grave
again hundreds of religious leaders from
又在坟墓里 来自各个教派的数百名宗教领袖
across all denominations gathered at the
聚集在
Parliamentary conference Hall to show
议会会议上 霍尔
their solidarity with the speaker
Rebecca kadaga on the issue of
在乌干达禁止同性恋问题上向议长丽贝卡·卡达加表示声援
prohibiting homosexuality in
Uganda the renewed calls for outlawing
homosexuality follow a recent Demand by
继
a Canadian minister for ugandans to stop
加拿大部长最近要求乌干达人停止有关
the debate on
homosexuality speaker kadaga to whom the
同性恋议长卡达加的辩论之后，再次呼吁取缔同性恋。
demand was made in Canada rejected the
加拿大制造拒绝了该
proposal and promised to revive the
提议并承诺恢复
debate I want to say the report is in
辩论我想说的是报告在
our hands the order paper is in our
我们手中命令文件
hands
the is in our hands why can't we do
在我们手中我们为什么不能
it the issue of banning homosexuality
这样做禁止同性恋的问题是
was introduced in 2009 but was shelf
在2009年提出的 但
after intense pressure was brought to
bear on the government by Western
在西方
countries and Wealthy gay
国家和富有的同性恋
activists the bill also provides for
活动人士对政府施加巨大压力后，该法案被搁置。该法案还规定，那些
those who may face a seven-year jail
可能面临七年监禁的人，
term and this will include persons who
其中包括
attempt to commit the offense of
试图犯下以下罪行的人：
homosexuality persons who promote
同性恋 宣扬
homosexuality and a person who keeps a
同性恋的人以及出于同性恋目的保留一所
house or set of rooms of any kind for
房屋或任何类型的房间的人，
purposes of homosexuality however one
但
could face life imprisonment if the
如果
offender attempts to commit aggravated
犯罪者试图实施严重的
homosexuality one commits the offense of
同性恋行为，则可能面临终身监禁。
homosexuality or a person who purports
to contract a marriage with another
与另一个
person of of the same sex we had better
同性的人结婚，
die poor than lose our dignity as
ugandans if they don't like to give us
如果他们不喜欢给我们
their money and attach it to our adance
钱，并将其与我们对
to their moral Behavior we better rounce
他们道德行为的进步联系起来，我们最好穷死，而不是失去我们
that money and remain as we have at
作为乌干达人的尊严。
least let him learn from me today that I
今天我们至少让他从我身上了解到，我
borrowed Shakespeare's statement I had
借用了莎士比亚的一句话，我
better love when my dog is backing at a
最好喜欢当我的狗背对着
crow on a tree
树上的乌鸦时，
than enjoy
而不是欣赏
a statement by a fellow man saying I
一个同胞说我
love you
never this is the
永远爱你，这是
biggest
最[掌声]
all
oh I am
噢，我是多么
what a
美好的一天，多么美好的一天
day what a
day
somebody is alleging that we are
有人声称我们正在
teaching children
教孩子们
homosexuality
同性恋，
it's not
这不是
true you don't go with the children you
真的，你不和孩子们一起去，你
have never organized a worker shop which
从来没有组织过工人商店 这是
resen for the
children
孩子们准备的[
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you take your time and
你慢慢来，
read is Nicholas
读的是尼古拉斯，
somebody there are people is a
有人，有人，是一项
government
政府
program which will benefit people of
计划，将使乌干达人民受益，
Uganda people come up to
人们提出
criticize and it is not true the best of
批评，这不是真的，
my knowledge that kof is spoiling our
我最好的 知道KOF在宠坏我们的
children it's not true kof have
孩子，这不是真的，KOF
tried to teach us even how you can
甚至试图教我们如何与
behave with the with your
你的
wife please you have to behave like
妻子相处，请你必须这样做，
this do anything which you want to do
做任何你想做的事情，
tell your wife don't do that as a person
告诉你的妻子不要那样做
that I'm a husband I have decided this
我是一个丈夫，我已经决定了，
no ask her ask him is this good let's
不问她，问他这样好吗？让我们
share this then you share ideas this
分享这个，然后你分享
came from
Kofa and they are like what that's
Kofa 的想法，他们就像
allegation and those are the most
指控一样，这些是
important stakeholders we went to one
我们上过一所学校的最重要的利益相关者
school time the very one saying those
那个说这些
things are
事情是
allegations so
指控的人，所以
I came
我
smiling count Chief said don't you
微笑着过来了，伯爵酋长说，你不用
worry don't worry that's not the thing
担心，不用担心，这不是事情，你
can Mo you from
可以从
here good news good
这里开始，好消息，好
news that allegations are like
消息，指控就像
that I have hope
这样，我再次抱有希望
again
the topic comes from my own lifestyle my
这个话题来自我自己的生活方式，我的
childhood my marriage and I thought I
童年，我的婚姻，我以为我正在
was doing something and someone doesn't
做某事，而有人不
want that thing to be talked
希望谈论这件事，与
about what's wrong with talking with
families what's wrong with
家人交谈有什么问题，这有什么问题，
it do you know homosexuality is a topic
你知道同性恋是
of Uganda when you talk about
乌干达的一个话题吗？ 当你谈论
homosexuality people will support you
同性恋时，人们会支持你，
because it is something is being talked
因为这是正在谈论的事情，
let me talk like this so that people
让我这样说话，这样人们就会
support
支持
我，
hey uh
嘿呃，
my father again used to
我父亲曾经
say he used to send to
说过，他曾经给我发送过
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me that my daughter now you have grown
我的女儿现在你已经长大了
my daughter you are now grown but what I
我的女儿，你现在已经长大了，但我
want to lastly tell you I want you to be
最后想告诉你的是，我希望你成为
a trusted child trust is the key for
一个值得信赖的孩子，信任是一切的关键，
everything and I thought was doing a
我认为这是一件
very good thing and I thought being
非常好的事情，我认为被
trusted is a good thing but I didn't
信任是一件好事，但我没有。 我不
know it has it is other side of being an
知道它有，这是成为
enemy to the rest of the people I didn't
其他人的敌人的另一面，我不
know I'm learning those things as as an
知道我正在像老年人一样学习这些东西，
old so they made their decision then was
所以他们做出了决定，然后
well done so let me go and continue with
做得很好，所以让我走并继续
read
阅读
okay
好吧，
life is very challenging challenging and
生活充满挑战，充满挑战，
good and bad and but but today I think
有好有坏，但是今天我想我
I'm going to
要
sleep not like yesterday you know I woke
睡觉了，不像昨天，你知道我
up yesterday at 4 I was looking up come
昨天四点醒来，我抬头来
to watch the looking up come sleep was
看望，抬头看去，
not there then I started blaming I have
然后我就睡不着了。 开始责怪我
not beening exercise I woke up at
没有锻炼，我六点就醒了，
6 but this I'm all the time talking
但是
again when this one of homosexual will
当这个同性恋者完成工作时，我一直在谈论接下来会发生什么，这
get finished what
next it is
sad and is very
是悲伤和非常
unfortunate this is completely
不幸的，这完全
rotten that's the
腐烂了，这就是
problem but you know it's one way
问题所在，但你知道这是
strategy to Blackmail me to feel that I
勒索我的一种策略，让我觉得我
should now say ahuh don't take that
现在应该说，啊，别拿那
thing there I give you money I give you
东西在那里，我给你钱，我给你
money and Christmas is coming why I get
钱，圣诞节快到了，为什么我得到
my money yeah I I I better I
我的钱，是的，我，我最好，我
better die with my money in the bank not
最好死了，我的钱存在银行里 不
to give
给
anybody so that's the
任何人所以这就是
life it's a very big
生活这是一个非常大的
disappointment you know I'm like in a
失望你知道我就像在一个
bottle uh I am inside the bottle and I
瓶子里呃我在瓶子里我
cannot turn like this ISF says a
不能像这样转动ISF说
managers are saying a stuff are saying a
经理们在说一些东西在说
so therefore I have to be there because
所以我必须 在那里，因为
they feel I am a I am a pillar but you
他们觉得我是一个支柱，但你
are you
是，你
are now you are going away and without
现在你要走了，如果没有
that pillar it would
那个支柱，它就会
collapse do you trust me
崩溃，你相信我
yes I have ever trusted you but you
吗？是的，我曾经信任过你，但你
remember how we were quarreling last
记得我们上周是如何争吵的吗？ 这
week
that doesn't mean that I don't trust
并不意味着我不相信
you you feel hungry a bit a bit N I
你，你感觉有点饿了，我
don't I don't understand why did you eat
不知道，我不明白你为什么
there in your office I ate here
在办公室里吃饭，我在这里吃饭，
only we are different when you are
只是我们不同，当你受到
challenged you eat when I feel
挑战时，你在我感觉饿的时候吃东西
challenged I don't
质疑我不
eat
吃
um then there's the issue of the
嗯，那么
certificate the last time I went to the
上次我去
NGO board they told me that they just
非政府组织董事会时就出现了证书问题，他们告诉我他们只是
were reviewing this file basing on the
根据这个指控审查这个文件
allegation this organization is
该组织
involving homosexual and lesbian acts
涉及同性恋行为
and that is what they're trying to
，这就是他们试图
review to ask the truth about it I'm
审查的内容，以询问真相，
suspicious when this man was now talking
当这个男人现在说话
and we met and blah blah so somehow they
并且我们见面时，我很怀疑，等等等等，所以不知怎的，他们
were very sure somebody is going to say
非常确定有人会说
now stop what
现在停止
C and and it will not continue the
C，它不会继续
operation you need to go and explain to
你需要去向
the people in these radio talk shows
这些广播脱口秀中的人们解释的操作，
okay that people build that confidence
好吧，人们建立信心
and get to know
并开始了解，
because now these ones are running
因为现在这些人
around saying you people are lesbians
到处说你们是女同性恋，
because people don't know but if
因为人们 不知道，但如果
somebody goes to the radio talk show and
有人去广播脱口秀节目
explains the whole country you get it
解释整个国家，你就明白了，
yeah you people you are doing very good
是的，你们
work for this country see then somebody
为这个国家做了很好的工作，明白了，有人
wants to con money you know by using
想通过使用
wrong information and character
错误的信息和人格
assassination you know and I'm the soal
诽谤来骗取金钱，你知道吗？ 知道，我是一条
big
大鱼
fish
at the moment we are not legally
目前我们还没有合法
registered let's close that chapter who
注册，让我们结束这一章
who says that now for 6 hours let she
谁说现在6个小时让她
not talk yes Madam let's there's no
不说话是的，女士，我们
madame here
这里没有女士
there
oh do I have more hair gray than
哦，我有更多的头发吗 比以前灰了
before
no you washed that hair yesterday so it
不 你昨天洗了头发 所以它
looks and it is
看起来很
thick no I feel n
厚 不 我觉得 n
n but we just ate some 2 hours ago yeah
n 但我们两个小时前才吃了一些 是的，
but a bit like I want
但有点像我想要
some so let me go
一些 所以让我走
on boil the boil the I want to take
煮沸 我想要的 为外国前带
some
一些
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前
okay it is because of the investigation
好吧这是因为调查
好吧
okay then that's fine then let us
好吧那就好吧然后让我们
relax let me give
放松让我给
你
inet ah sorry how are
inet啊抱歉
you yeah but the issue is now our
你好吗是的 但现在的问题是我们的
certificate I don't have it so I can
证书，我没有它，所以我可以
startop
开始
backing okay but at the moment I am just
支持，好吧，但此刻我
like uh dead
就像呃死
inside okay thank you very much thank
在里面，好吧，非常感谢你，谢谢你，
you thank you
bye hey
再见，嘿嘿，
hey
up what did he tell
他告诉
you he was calm he was saying don't
你他是什么了 冷静，他说别
worry I can't help it yeah of course
担心，我无能为力，是的，当然是
individual it is emotional stress stress
个人，这是情绪压力，
but uh I for me I have swallowed it that
但呃，我对我来说，我已经吞下了它，我
I can't remove the the rubber stamp from
now
现在无法从我身上取下橡皮图章，
please we have been strong
请我们坚强起来
Mixie we have been
Mixie，我们一直很
strong
坚强
us remember when sings for you
我们记得为你唱歌的时候
no
不
速度
foree
y
y
B
B
ofy
ofy
fore
let's make a promise you will be
让我们做出承诺，你会
walking will you be
走路，你会和
walking with
who alone
谁一起走路，
but I told you to buy the tablet which
但我告诉你要买平板电脑，哪款
tablet yes I have a Skype then you can
平板电脑是的，我有 Skype，然后你可以
talk to me but you know me and
和我说话，但你了解我和
Technology hey who is going to teach
技术，嘿，谁会教
you you remember how he tried to teach
你 记得他是如何教
me skiper and then I de said never will
我skip的，然后我说我永远不会
I have a skip people here but you have
在这里有一个skip人，但你
been teaching me about what Look At Me
一直在教我什么“
When You Found Me 1986 was I like this
当你找到我时看着我1986”是我喜欢的
I'm talking about
我正在谈论
technology I would not be here if you
技术我不会 在这里，如果你
didn't encourage me you can do
不鼓励我，你可以
it Kos for uplifting my
这样做科斯，因为提高了我的
standard
标准，
you have so many friends in
你在
Finland
芬兰有很多朋友
spee
for
f
f
bang
bang
hello
hello
okaye
OKE [
Isa are you after
Isa 你在
John he's coming
约翰之后吗？他要来了，
there how is the facilitation going on
协助进展得怎么样？你花了很多
well it has been very difficult you
spend your
days this
时间与
talking to people you come there they
人们交谈，你来到那里，他们
tell
告诉
you someone is not there someone has
你有人不在那里，有人要去
going for a meeting yes and until you
参加一个会议，是，直到你
succeed
成功为止，
no are you
否 约翰，你是
serious John I love you I love you
认真的吗？我爱你，我爱你，
this has been a struggle of 11 months
这已经是一场长达 11 个月的斗争了，
yeah almost a whole year since they were
是的，自从他们被分配以来几乎一整年，
assigned so now this is the one which is
所以现在这
like that ISF is register permanently
就像 ISF 永远永久地注册，
forever and forever and this is the one
这是一个
to to be renewed every five years yes
每五年更新一次 是的，
you are allowed to work this is the
你可以工作，这是
permit yeah you allowed to par for 5
许可证，是的，你可以在 5
years when it is over you go back
年内工作，当它结束时，你可以回去，
to but then it is not going to be my CH
但之后它就不再是我的 CH了，
anymore some people wanted just to
有些人只是想
ensure that I does not work here yes and
确保 我不在这儿工作，是的，
it was deliberate they wanted either
他们是故意想要
money or they wanted to that but money
钱，或者他们想要那个，但是钱就在
was there remember they demanded if I
那里，记得他们要求如果我
take just 2 million there yes then they
只拿200万，是的，那么他们
would give it like this and I refused
就会这样给，我拒绝了，
that's our taxpayers money that's and
那是我们纳税人的钱，
this is free of charge they are free of
这是免费的 他们是免费的 是
charge yes and now they have this big
的，现在他们有这个又大又
big homophobic cake everything what is
大的恐同蛋糕，一切都是什么，
it
still
仍然
yes so I got frightened what now
是，所以我害怕了，现在你
y yo
哟
okay cooperation
好的，合作
continues thank
继续，谢谢
thank you thank
你，谢谢
Youk it's not me it is kof and you but
你 不是我，是 kof 和你，但
you know if we didn't know what was
你知道，如果我们不知道
happening if you were not here who would
发生了什么，如果你不在这里，谁会
have believed in what is happening
相信正在发生的事情，
that's why I think having a coordinator
这就是为什么我认为
is very very important supposing these
假设这些
things happened without anybody watching
事情在没有任何人的情况下发生，有一个协调员是非常非常重要的 看着
they would say no they would say no but
他们会说不，他们会说不，但是，
yeah but that was not the
是的，但
case life is for learning but we never
事实并非如此，生活是为了学习，但我们
learn until we
直到
die but thank you for no we have learned
死都不会学习，但谢谢你，我们已经学会了，
and remember what doesn't kill us will
记住那些不会杀死我们的东西会让
make us strong I hope so here are you we
我们变得坚强，我希望 所以你在这里，我们
are already
已经很
strong I feel stronger than in the
坚强了，我感觉比早上更坚强，
morning but why are you going back to
但你为什么要回到
Finland and if you are
芬兰，如果你
strong don't change the topic now
坚强，现在就不要改变话题
[音乐]是的，
yeah can you
你能
sing No any other
唱歌吗？没有任何其他
questions
问题
yeah Madame yeah you you d so
是的 女士，是的，你真是太
beautiful mad
漂亮了，疯狂的
ISS yes yeah I can see I'm going now
ISS 是的，我知道我现在要走了，
kids we are here because yesterday
孩子们，我们在这里，因为昨天
evening they had the board meeting as
晚上他们召开了董事会会议，正如
you know and and I'm very happy to
你所知，我很高兴地
inform you that every board member in
告诉你，ISF 的每位董事会成员
ISF said that Kofa is a
说Kofa是
victim K is not
受害者K不是
guilty isn't it isn't it we cried
有罪不是吗我们昨天哭了
yesterday
and and Above All Above All My Friends
而且最重要的是我的朋友
above all the cooperation between is kov
最重要的是kov之间的合作
continues
仍在继续，
and I'm I I have a feeling that
我是我我有一种感觉
something good will come out there but
好的将会出现，但这
it just takes time yeah it takes time we
需要时间 是的，这需要时间，我们
are here in
Uganda you go to Min of gender
乌干达 你去 Min of sex
stop you go to the sub count
站 你去 sub count
stop you go to the
站 你去那个
stop you go to F stop
站 你去 F 站
I'm sorry to say I never went to the
我很遗憾地说我
University from the beginning I was a
从一开始我就没有上过大学 我是一名
school Dr out been abused because of
学校博士 被虐待，因为
that come away to come to where I am but
离开来到我所在的地方，但对其
to seem some insult to other people why
他人来说似乎是一些侮辱 为什么
God
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why
why pain I have give me the glory give
为什么痛苦 我给我荣耀给
me the peace let me walk in your hearts
我平安 让我走进你的心
let me come upon you let me glorify you
让我来到你身边让我荣耀你
let me be with me all the time protect
让我一直和我在一起保护
me God from those give me the face give
我上帝远离那些给我脸给
everything I've been with you I've been
我和你在一起的一切我一直在
thinking I'm
想我 我
doubting God give it to
怀疑上帝给它
thank you thank you thank you
谢谢你谢谢你谢谢你
thank my
谢谢我的
Integrity this is like kof used to be I
正直这就像kof曾经那样我
have been strong this is a cry not for
一直很坚强这是一种哭泣不是因为
being I am strong I just want to empty
我坚强我只是想放空
M
M
understand how do you feel
明白你怎么办
now how do you feel now I feel better
现在感觉你现在感觉怎么样 我感觉好多了，
good it is a SC to divorce in Uganda
很好，在乌干达离婚是 SC，
here I have come to understand that it
我开始明白，
is a sin to drop out of school and it is
辍学是一种罪过，
a sin to be independent and
独立和女人是一种罪过，
woman a
it I would say that
我会说 那
Val but there is no development without
瓦尔，但没有
pain have you ever seen any development
痛苦就没有发展，你见过
without pain how we going to the
没有痛苦的发展吗？我们如何再次回到哲学
philosophy again
s we F we are like we have swallowed the
我们F我们就像吞下了
hard
stick and and all of you you you you
硬棒并且 你们所有人，你们，你们，你们
know how to
知道如何
sing and you are not
唱歌，你们并不
shy and yet R knows how to sing oh can
害羞，但 R 知道如何唱歌哦，你们能为
you sing us one of the finished songs
我们唱一首完成的歌曲吗，
excuse
me you sing tell
对不起，你们唱，请告诉
her please B is going to sing with this
她，B 要用
broken voice of cigarettes
破碎的声音来唱 现在香烟
嘿
H we are thankful that we had an
H我们很感激我们有
opportunity to work with
机会和
you big
你一起工作大话
words
this is
这是
beautiful happy
美丽的快乐
retirement
退休
but this looks really funny do I really
但这看起来真的很有趣我真的
need two lus us us your
需要两个lus我们我们你
you need
你需要
it it is funny I'm going
它很有趣我要去
away and you don't have many things no
离开了，你没有很多东西，不，
but you have given out things you want
但是你已经给出了你想要
to take back them there and then you
带回来的东西，然后你把
bring them back but I I need to add the
它们带回来，但我我需要添加
cigarettes stop it now you are
香烟，现在停止它，你很
strong let me show you how I
坚强，让我告诉你我可以如何做
can
and greetings to your
向你的
family I've seen that that thing is a
家人问好 我发现那东西有点
bit broken it is I know okay it doesn't
坏了，我知道，好吧，
matter it's it's just that outside part
没关系，这只是外面的部分
m
m
hey hey and thank you for accommodating
嘿嘿，谢谢你对我的照顾，
me very
well so you are coming in there okay
所以你会进来，好吧，
you know I I have been thinking I'm just
你知道我，我一直以为我只是
strong but there the rest I
坚强，但剩下的我
start am
开始了，
I
not I'm so used to you
不是，我太习惯你了，
that when you are not there every
当你每天早上都不在的时候，
morning I
like just leave it there okay but can
喜欢把它留在那里，好吧，但
you stop
你能停下来吗
I love you you are my
我爱你你是我的
friend my
朋友我的
friend hey by by hey hey
朋友嘿嘿嘿嘿
speee
speee